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Old 09-28-2010, 09:23 PM   #1117040  /  #1
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Effective January 1, 2011, you will need a doctor's prescription to be reimbursed for Over-the-Counter (OTC) drugs and medicines, such as Claritin, Advil and Robitussin, through your Account. Since the new law requires a prescription for OTC drugs and medicines to be eligible for reimbursement under your Account, you will no longer be able to use your WageWorks® Health Care Card ("Card") to pay for these purchases. Instead, you will be required to submit the receipt showing the prescription number (or if the prescription number is not shown on the receipt, you will need to include your doctor's prescription) through a Pay Me Back claim online at www.wageworks.com or by fax or mail.
This new prescription requirement applies only to OTC drugs and medicines.
Why the FUCK do you need a doctor's prescription for a mother fucking over the counter drug!?!

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Old 09-28-2010, 09:44 PM   #1117098  /  #2
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Effective January 1, 2011, you will need a doctor's prescription to be reimbursed for Over-the-Counter (OTC) drugs and medicines, such as Claritin, Advil and Robitussin, through your Account. Since the new law requires a prescription for OTC drugs and medicines to be eligible for reimbursement under your Account, you will no longer be able to use your WageWorks® Health Care Card ("Card") to pay for these purchases. Instead, you will be required to submit the receipt showing the prescription number (or if the prescription number is not shown on the receipt, you will need to include your doctor's prescription) through a Pay Me Back claim online at www.wageworks.com or by fax or mail.
This new prescription requirement applies only to OTC drugs and medicines.
Why the FUCK do you need a doctor's prescription for a mother fucking over the counter drug!?!
You won't. You'll need one to be reimbursed for OTC drugs, because if you're taking that many OTC drugs so as to need to be reimbursed by your health care plan, then you'd damn well better be taking them due to a doctor's prescription.

One bottle of Advil should last you at least six months to a year of normal, periodic use. If it doesn't, then you're self-medicating--most likely without the guidance of your doctor--which is a stupid fucking thing to do no matter what the reason. This would prevent such stupidity and ensure that you're not using your employee health benefits for cheap highs like buying crates of OTC cough syrup or the like.
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You'll need one to be reimbursed for OTC drugs, because if you're taking that many OTC drugs so as to need to be reimbursed by your health care plan
I used to be reimbursed. Now I am not. I lost a benefit. Period. All else is apologetics.

By the way, this is my money in my medical spending account. I am not being reimbursed from my plan, I am now being told I cannot use my own money set aside for out of pocket medical expenses, for out of pocket medical expenses.
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:02 PM   #1117130  /  #4
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There's so much to complain about in the new law and this is the provision that makes you think that it sucks?
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Don't you get a tax benefit on contributions?
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This will really cut into my side business selling cough medicine to high-schoolers, btw.
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:06 PM   #1117141  /  #7
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Don't you get a tax benefit on contributions?
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:11 PM   #1117147  /  #8
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There's so much to complain about in the new law and this is the provision that makes you think that it sucks?
It's the first one that has affected me. Plus, it's a really stupid change that doesn't reform anything. It causes more paperwork if you want to claim the same benefits you had before. I now have to go see a doctor, which will produce a claim on my policy for the office visit to get the prescription, then another claim on my medical spending plan for the co-pay for the office visit, then finally the cost of the OTC drug. Either I let the benefit go, or I waste doctor time, my money and plan money to get what I had before.
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:50 PM   #1117225  /  #10
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There's so much to complain about in the new law and this is the provision that makes you think that it sucks?
It's the first one that has affected me. Plus, it's a really stupid change that doesn't reform anything. It causes more paperwork if you want to claim the same benefits you had before. I now have to go see a doctor, which will produce a claim on my policy for the office visit to get the prescription, then another claim on my medical spending plan for the co-pay for the office visit, then finally the cost of the OTC drug. Either I let the benefit go, or I waste doctor time, my money and plan money to get what I had before.
They're OTC. Jesus Christ, quit goddamn whining you fucking bitch. If you're spending enough on them that you really need the pre-tax dollars to go to them, you've got a much, much, much, much larger problem.

If you are not trolling us, grow a fucking pair. Jesus fucking shit Christ.
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:54 PM   #1117231  /  #11
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Effective January 1, 2011, you will need a doctor's prescription to be reimbursed for Over-the-Counter (OTC) drugs and medicines, such as Claritin, Advil and Robitussin, through your Account. Since the new law requires a prescription for OTC drugs and medicines to be eligible for reimbursement under your Account, you will no longer be able to use your WageWorks® Health Care Card ("Card") to pay for these purchases. Instead, you will be required to submit the receipt showing the prescription number (or if the prescription number is not shown on the receipt, you will need to include your doctor's prescription) through a Pay Me Back claim online at www.wageworks.com or by fax or mail.
This new prescription requirement applies only to OTC drugs and medicines.
Why the FUCK do you need a doctor's prescription for a mother fucking over the counter drug!?!
You won't. You'll need one to be reimbursed for OTC drugs
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There's so much to complain about in the new law and this is the provision that makes you think that it sucks?
It's the first one that has affected me. Plus, it's a really stupid change that doesn't reform anything. It causes more paperwork if you want to claim the same benefits you had before. I now have to go see a doctor, which will produce a claim on my policy for the office visit to get the prescription, then another claim on my medical spending plan for the co-pay for the office visit, then finally the cost of the OTC drug. Either I let the benefit go, or I waste doctor time, my money and plan money to get what I had before.
They're OTC. Jesus Christ, quit goddamn whining you fucking bitch. If you're spending enough on them that you really need the pre-tax dollars to go to them, you've got a much, much, much, much larger problem.

If you are not trolling us, grow a fucking pair. Jesus fucking shit Christ.
Believe it or not, posts from the transparent Obama shill don't make this thread better.
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:59 PM   #1117239  /  #14
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It's the first one that has affected me. Plus, it's a really stupid change that doesn't reform anything. It causes more paperwork if you want to claim the same benefits you had before. I now have to go see a doctor, which will produce a claim on my policy for the office visit to get the prescription, then another claim on my medical spending plan for the co-pay for the office visit, then finally the cost of the OTC drug. Either I let the benefit go, or I waste doctor time, my money and plan money to get what I had before.
They're OTC. Jesus Christ, quit goddamn whining you fucking bitch. If you're spending enough on them that you really need the pre-tax dollars to go to them, you've got a much, much, much, much larger problem.

If you are not trolling us, grow a fucking pair. Jesus fucking shit Christ.
Believe it or not, posts from the transparent Obama shill don't make this thread better.
How was your short bus ride today? Net cost to this guy: if it's more than 50 bucks, there's a major goddamn problem, and he needs to go to the goddamn doctor. If it isn't, he's a whiny bitch.

This is why America goddamn sucks. Whiny, whiny, whiny fucking bitches.
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Plus, it's a really stupid change that doesn't reform anything.
Well, it means that the federal government isn't subsidizing arbitrary OTC drug purchases. I get that you don't like the change, but it's a way of reducing spending without significantly impacting medically necessary utilization.
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Plus, it's a really stupid change that doesn't reform anything.
Well, it means that the federal government isn't subsidizing arbitrary OTC drug purchases. I get that you don't like the change, but it's a way of reducing spending without significantly impacting medically necessary utilization.
How is it reducing spending?
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If you're spending enough on them that you really need the pre-tax dollars to go to them, you've got a much, much, much, much larger problem.
Please explain why government taxes medical care?
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Plus, it's a really stupid change that doesn't reform anything.
Well, it means that the federal government isn't subsidizing arbitrary OTC drug purchases. I get that you don't like the change, but it's a way of reducing spending without significantly impacting medically necessary utilization.
How is it reducing spending?
Sorry, too much to do today and I misspoke - see bolded sentence. The amount isn't material in the context of the health reform bill, but it does mean that people like Autonemesis will contribute fewer pre-tax dollars to FSAs.
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If you're spending enough on them that you really need the pre-tax dollars to go to them, you've got a much, much, much, much larger problem.
Please explain why government taxes medical care?
Should all medical care be tax-deductible?
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They're OTC. Jesus Christ, quit goddamn whining you fucking bitch. If you're spending enough on them that you really need the pre-tax dollars to go to them, you've got a much, much, much, much larger problem.

If you are not trolling us, grow a fucking pair. Jesus fucking shit Christ.
I don't think you understand. I am not the only one who uses a medical savings plan. You really think everyone who has one will just say "Oh, never mind then, I'll just have to grow a pair?"

FUCK NO.

Most of them will go to their doctor for an unnecessary visit to get an unnecessary prescription. The visit will be charged to the plan, the co-pay will be charged to the medical savings account. There are now three charges where there were once just one.

Brilliant.
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They're OTC. Jesus Christ, quit goddamn whining you fucking bitch. If you're spending enough on them that you really need the pre-tax dollars to go to them, you've got a much, much, much, much larger problem.

If you are not trolling us, grow a fucking pair. Jesus fucking shit Christ.
I don't think you understand. I am not the only one who uses a medical savings plan. You really think everyone who has one will just say "Oh, never mind then, I'll just have to grow a pair?"

FUCK NO.

Most of them will go to their doctor for an unnecessary visit to get an unnecessary prescription. The visit will be charged to the plan, the co-pay will be charged to the medical savings account. There are now three charges where there were once just one.

Brilliant.
You're going to go to your doctor, to get a prescription, so you can get reimbursment on a $5 bottle of Advil,that will likely last you six months?

Man, you need to reevaluate your priorities.
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If you're spending enough on them that you really need the pre-tax dollars to go to them, you've got a much, much, much, much larger problem.
Please explain why government taxes medical care?
Should all medical care be tax-deductible?
Of course. In fact labor should never be taxed.
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No, gamera. Millions of people who used to be able to get their OTC drugs reimbursed will be doing that.
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No, gamera. Millions of people who used to be able to get their OTC drugs reimbursed will be doing that.
Maybe. I don't know any of them. I'm really more concerned with things like medical caps and preexisting conditions and keeping adult children on my plan. The last two affect me personally, as well as about a dozen people I know.

I think they'll be more pleased about that than worrying about the cost of a bottle of Advil.
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